Comments on: Motor School with Quinn Redeker: How’s Your Dismount? https://ridermagazine.com/2024/01/18/motor-school-with-quinn-redeker-hows-your-dismount/ Rider Magazine features the latest motorcycle reviews, news, and videos. This is Motorcycling at its Best. Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:42:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.2 By: Quinn Redeker https://ridermagazine.com/2024/01/18/motor-school-with-quinn-redeker-hows-your-dismount/#comment-1486184 Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:42:38 +0000 https://ridermagazine.com/?p=76703#comment-1486184 In reply to Smil’n Jose.

Jose- absolutely solid thinking, keeping us away from traffic in the first place is a big benefit of this process. I think I skipped over your point because it’s not so much that we are within a traffic lane upon immediate park/dismount, but rather have the potential for falling into it if the bike tumbles over. But my response to you is probably more so motivated by the fact that I can’t change my story at this point and I’m trying to defend myself for having omitted your good point. If I’m honest I’m a little irritated that you failed to give me a heads up before it went to print.

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By: Sam Pellegrino https://ridermagazine.com/2024/01/18/motor-school-with-quinn-redeker-hows-your-dismount/#comment-1485946 Wed, 24 Jan 2024 23:47:17 +0000 https://ridermagazine.com/?p=76703#comment-1485946 Rider Age, Leg Length and Fitness, along with the size and configuration of the bike, and of course the dismount/remount situation, surface, time of day, weather, etc., are all variables in this process, and one size does definitely not fit all.

#1 is that Police motors are massive to begin with, and these riders are FIT!
Rule 1 for them is to Dismount Away From Traffic, plain and simple.

In my over 50 years of riding, the process has varied accordingly, with all of those factors first mentioned (and I am certain there are more). in my early days, I’d dismount left without deploying any side stand, and pull my BMW R69S right up on its center stand. Rarely used the side stands, as they seemed to be an engineering and fabrication afterthought back then.

As I got older, and less fit, and probably also because I was riding Liter-Plus bikes, my process began to evolve. The side stand’s been deployed more as a “crutch,” both literally and figuratively, against any miscalculation on my part, as normally I’d go directly to the center stand for maximum stability and less of a footprint in my garage.

As usual, YMMV (your mileage may vary), but to insist that “Dismounting on the High Side” is THE WAY, is much too narrow an approach, IMHO. Thanks for bringing this all to the surface. It gives us all a reason to reflect on what we do, and could perhaps do better.

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By: Greg https://ridermagazine.com/2024/01/18/motor-school-with-quinn-redeker-hows-your-dismount/#comment-1485871 Wed, 24 Jan 2024 19:55:31 +0000 https://ridermagazine.com/?p=76703#comment-1485871 I would add to your article; put your bike in first gear and kill the engine (switch or handlebar). Then release the clutch and let the bike settle against the motor’s compression. Then deploy the kickstand. My reading of your description wasn’t clear about the desired result, that the bike cannot roll forward while on the sidestand. I always like to feel the bike as immovable prior to the kickstand going down. But then I have a 200k+ R100GS with the spring-loaded sidestand, so have lots of practice worrying about the bike falling over, lol.

At 68, I don’t clamber on and off like I used to, but will give the high-side exit some practice. Would have been easy 30 years ago.

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By: Smil'n Jose https://ridermagazine.com/2024/01/18/motor-school-with-quinn-redeker-hows-your-dismount/#comment-1485818 Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:15:28 +0000 https://ridermagazine.com/?p=76703#comment-1485818 I am actually surprised that no mention was made of the BEST reason for a high side (right side) dismount. IT KEEPS THE RIDER FROM INADVERTANTLY STEPPING INTO TRAFFIC.

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By: BlueKnight https://ridermagazine.com/2024/01/18/motor-school-with-quinn-redeker-hows-your-dismount/#comment-1485802 Wed, 24 Jan 2024 16:33:14 +0000 https://ridermagazine.com/?p=76703#comment-1485802 Definitely agree with the Right Side is the Right Side for me. I’ve done it both ways over many years of riding and from my personal experience, mounting / dismounting from the high side (right side) works best and is the safest for me. This is especially true on taller bikes, since I can use the right foot peg as a step and just swing a leg over. I also agree that not everyone feels the same way, but be forewarned, it is safer.

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By: Ray Rosson https://ridermagazine.com/2024/01/18/motor-school-with-quinn-redeker-hows-your-dismount/#comment-1485801 Wed, 24 Jan 2024 16:31:00 +0000 https://ridermagazine.com/?p=76703#comment-1485801 I can quite believe a motor cop would want to get off on the non traffic side of the bike so we should all get comfortable doing this. But I recall trying to mount my Tiger Explorer from the right. The suspension compressed and I had a tiger coming at me! Perhaps the high side is only for dismounting?

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By: Quinn Redeker https://ridermagazine.com/2024/01/18/motor-school-with-quinn-redeker-hows-your-dismount/#comment-1485469 Tue, 23 Jan 2024 22:03:35 +0000 https://ridermagazine.com/?p=76703#comment-1485469 In reply to AnYou.

This process is definitely NOT easier from a mounting/dismounting perspective. But it’s a process that answers the most amount of “what if’s” in parking/stopping situations from a safety standpoint. My goal here is to introduce an idea of mounting and dismounting your motorcycle that will keep you safe, not necessarily make things easier on you. Think of it as tough love.

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By: Quinn Redeker https://ridermagazine.com/2024/01/18/motor-school-with-quinn-redeker-hows-your-dismount/#comment-1485466 Tue, 23 Jan 2024 21:56:04 +0000 https://ridermagazine.com/?p=76703#comment-1485466 In reply to Craig Williams.

Craig – First off, I was a husky young boy and I know firsthand what a bad situation torn pants can put you in…so your first point hits home for sure. And if you have already thought of all the “what if’s” within your process and it covers all the variables and conditions you might face, definitely disregard my advice and continue doing it your way. But when it comes to getting knocked into traffic, it takes exactly one time for that to bite you, and in motorcycle riding I live by the philosophy of “possibility” that something could happen, rather than the “probability” it could due to minimal exposure to certain riding situations. Yes, if you are less flexible, older, shorter, on bigger/taller equipment, geared up in certain configurations, and a million other situations we could debate, this way is more of a hassle. And “probably” your way will continue to work fine for you. That said, this process requires no kickstand double-check, minimal surface appraisal, keeps us unbound from the bike no matter what happens, and provides a repeatable routine in all situations. In other words, it’s muscle memory, set it and forget it. Is it perfect for everybody all the time? Absolutely not.

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By: Craig Williams https://ridermagazine.com/2024/01/18/motor-school-with-quinn-redeker-hows-your-dismount/#comment-1485445 Tue, 23 Jan 2024 20:33:45 +0000 https://ridermagazine.com/?p=76703#comment-1485445 But what if I rip/tear the inseam in my riding pants while stretching over to the right side? Lose some weight, you say. What if I don’t have a third point of contact when swinging the left leg over the highest part of the bike? Stand “up” before swinging left leg over, you say? What if I’m not an LEO on a bike, and I rarely, if ever, need to “park” and get off with traffic? Preventative move, you say.
I say, how about involving some basic common sense. I say consider one’s area: weather conditions, traffic conditions, grade of the road, the angle your particular bike sits at when the stand is down. What works for LEO’s and their brethren does not always translate to everyday riders like myself. I also say to ensure that your bike is in gear, or in my case, that the “park” brake is engaged before dismounting. I also double check that my kickstand is extended fully before dismounting. Only takes 2 seconds to kick it again to ensure full extension, thereby negating the bike “moving forward” on it’s own.
All good point in the article. Well thought out and clearly explained. But there’s always more than one to skin that cat….
Cheers…

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By: AnYou https://ridermagazine.com/2024/01/18/motor-school-with-quinn-redeker-hows-your-dismount/#comment-1485412 Tue, 23 Jan 2024 18:42:14 +0000 https://ridermagazine.com/?p=76703#comment-1485412 I never had any problems getting in or out of my motorcycles. I have sport, cruise and touring bikes. On my sport and cruise which there is no bags or back trunk I use to do it as everyone would do it normally meaning your right leg over the back seat rotating counter clockwise. On my tourings (GL1200 and Road Glide Ultra) stretching my right leg over the front seat and sliding over to the other side until reaching the pavement. Never had any trouble.

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